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			<title>S/W ate the job market</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;In the USA, there are:&lt;/p&gt;
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					&lt;th&gt;Discipline&lt;/th&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;370,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172051&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;civil engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;370,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172112&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;industrial engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;300,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172141&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;mechanical engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;200,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172071&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;electrical engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;77,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172061&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;computer engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;68,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172011&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;aerospace engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;23,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172031&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;biomedical engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;23,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=190000&amp;amp;occupation=192012&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;physicists&lt;/a&gt;/&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=190000&amp;amp;occupation=192011&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;astronomers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;21,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=170000&amp;amp;occupation=172041&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;chemical engineers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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					&lt;td style=&#34;text-align: right&#34;&gt;2,000&lt;/td&gt;
					&lt;td&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://data.bls.gov/oesprofile/?year=2025&amp;amp;major_group=150000&amp;amp;occupation=152021&amp;amp;measure=01&amp;amp;areas=INDUSTRY,STATE,MSA&#34;&gt;mathematicians&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;There&amp;rsquo;s ~2-5 million &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bls.gov/oes/2025/may/oes_stru.htm#15-0000&#34;&gt;software engineers&lt;/a&gt; in the USA (depending on how you count data science (math), etc. See for yourself!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This means there are more software engineers than &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; other math/physics/engineering disciplines combined, and up to &amp;gt;10x the next highest engineering discipline.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At current 10% unemployment in software jobs, there&amp;rsquo;s possibly more &lt;em&gt;unemployed&lt;/em&gt; s/w engs than there are engs in any other discipline.&lt;/p&gt;
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